Ganthrithor wrote:Good god... you people. How how HOW can you complain about two new ships using hybrids and advocate for the new Gallente / Caldari BCs to use drones / missiles?
Have you ever ~*used*~ drones or missiles in PvP? They're absolutely terrible! Drones are glitchy, subject to being killed quickly and easily independently of their carrier, and hampered with speed and tracking problems that make them ineffective combat tools. Missiles, aside from heavies, are utter **** for PvP as well-- first there's the travel time problem, then there's the fact that none of the non-medium missile systems do any damage. Rockets and lights are just pathetically awful in terms of DPS and their ability to hit their intended (small, fast moving) targets for decent damage. Cruises / torps are similarly useless in that they can't do proper damage to anything other than battleships or larger.
There's a reason you don't see fleets of Ravens and Dominixes (the two month obsession with Das Boot fleets aside) on the field. Drones suck. Rockets suck. Light missiles suck. Cruises are at best "not good." Torps are almost completely worthless vs things smaller than POS. Only heavy missiles are anywhere near useful for PvP, which, when combined with the absolutely broken stats on the tier 2 Caldari BC is why 3/4 of EVE PvP these days consists of DrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakesDrakes.
Drones and missiles are bad for PvP. If a moronic subset of Caldari pilots really wishes to saddle themselves with yet another missile boat, fine, but leave Gallente out of it. I'll keep my blasters, thanks very much.
By the way, this is coming from someone who has (between all characters) every cruiser 5, all battleship 5's, and has flown ships from all races. It's not like I don't speak from experience.
O yes Drones must suck for pvp they suck so bad that they had to take them off of every Super Carrier and Carrier and then had to put them back on Carriers so they would not be about worthless. So ya your so right drones just totaly suck as pvp weapons.
And on top of that Drones have been broken over the last two years same as hybirds. No tech 2 Modules No Drone dmg modules no Drone hardwireing only Drone dmg rig is for Senterys. Meaning that the only reason Dominix's are not used much on the Battle field is becouse drone dps has been left behind to rot even as all other weapon systems are geting boosted though the roof.
And last I heared as I dont fly any races frigates much that Caldari missile frigates were doing just fine now after the last frigate class missile ajustments.
Ravens are not on the battle field in any meaningfull way becouse Battle ship Missiles and there platforms are broken. There is a glearing lack of a Tech 1 battle ships with 8xMissile hardpoints and both Cruise/Torps fly to there targets way to slow. Both are fairly easy fixs. Add two missile hard points to the raven with the needed cpu/gride for them and inc trop speed/cut fly time to keep same range and Drastly inc Cruiser speed and cut fly time to keep same range.
There mite be a few more tweaks needed for BS missiles but thoughs two are the primay problems.
At least were geting Tech 2 Drone modules at last.
And by the way I to can fly every sub capital ship and use there weapons and EW as well so I too speak from experience.
How ever I'm not one much for flying in small gank squads with witch no one has ever sayed blaster boats suck at. In fact it's the only thing there good at. And rails still just fail.
This are just facts why try twisting the true of things.